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TEMPEST WIVES AND DAUGHTERS IN THE LATE MEDIEVAL PERIOD PART BY JOHN R SCHUERMAN AND DOUGLAS HICKLING INTRODUCTION This note considers what we know concerning four Tempest wives and one Tempest daughter in the late Medieval period In some cases, we reach conclusions, in others, we note the inconclusive evidence The issues are: Was Margaret Holand, daughter of Sir Robert Holand and Maud la Zouche, the wife of Sir John Tempest (1283-1356)? Who was the wife of Sir John Tempest (b ca 1313)? Who were the parents of Mary Talbot, the wife of Richard Tempest (d ca 1390)? Who was the wife of Sir Richard Tempest (1356-1428)? Who were the parents of Isabel Tempest who married Laurence Hamerton? We take as our point of departure a manuscript written by Eleanor Blanche Tempest in the 1910s and early 20s The manuscript, Tempest Pedigrees, is in the British Library (Add MS 40,670) and a copy exists at Broughton Hall, near Skipton We have examined the British Library copy but not the manuscript at Broughton, so we not know whether there are differences in these documents The British Library manuscript is a large folio document of 22 sheets, in which the text area of each sheet is about 24 by 20 inches It is written in small black script, with citations in red ink and various coats of arms scattered about, in color The sheets are crammed with information about the early Tempests, with meticulous documentation The earliest Tempest recorded on these sheets is Roger, who lived in the early 12th Century and was an associate of the Rumellis, who established the monastery of Embsay, the predecessor of Bolton Abbey We have made use of only a few of the sheets in our explorations, those having to with the ancestors of Isabel Tempest who married Laurence Hamerton Some individuals appear two or more times on these sheets, sometimes with differing information In the following, "EBT" refers either to the author or to her manuscript EBT appears to be the source for a number of Burke's pedigrees of the Tempests, including those in Landed Gentry, Family Records, and Peerage and Baronetage However, none of those pedigrees matches the EBT manuscript exactly An article by R W Hoyle, "The Fortunes of the Tempest Family of Bracewell and Bowling in the Sixteenth Century" (Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, v 74, 2002, pp 169-189) is based largely on Mrs Tempest’s work Eleanor Blanche Tempest was born in 1853, the daughter of Edward Reynard of Sunderlandwick, East Riding Yorkshire She married Arthur Cecil Tempest who held the Tempest estate at Broughton as a direct male descendant of the earliest Tempests She died in 1928 She was clearly a remarkable woman Blind in one eye, she undertook extensive genealogical studies of her husband's heritage and of other families of Yorkshire Ms Tempest acquired a large library of genealogical books at Broughton Hall, as well as manuscripts and other documents It is evident that she spent many hours at the British Museum, the Bodleian Library at Oxford, the Public Record Office, and public and private repositories in Yorkshire and Lancashire In addition, she was evidently in close contact with other antiquaries of the day and other collectors of ancient documents She was a member of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire and wrote a number of articles in its Proceedings as well as in the Genealogist, the Yorkshire Archaeological Society journals, and the Bradford Antiquary She was also a wood carver, responsible for a number of mantel pieces in Broughton Hall Bracewell, the original manor of the Tempests, has not been in the family since the mid-seventeenth century However, Broughton Hall, not far away and just off the A59 highway, continues in the Tempest family to this day Henry Roger Tempest, EBT's grandson, lives there He has given over control of the estate to his son Roger Henry Tempest In 1987, Henry Roger commissioned and privately printed a book by M E Lancaster, The Tempests of Broughton (the front matter indicates it is available from The Estate Office, Broughton Hall, Broughton, Skipton, N Yorkshire, BD23 3AE) This book is based largely on EBT, with additional material on the Tempests since 1920 Lancaster may also have had access to the archives in Broughton Hall The book gives some sources, apparently mostly copied from EBT (occasionally in error), but much of it is undocumented It is a useful resource, but not a substitute for EBT's manuscript In preparing this note, in addition to EBT, we have consulted original sources (manuscripts in the British Library, the National Archives, and elsewhere), "quasi-original" sources (that is, transcripts, translations, and calendars of original documents), and secondary sources (these include sources such as the Dodsworth manuscripts in the Bodleian Library and Harleian MSS in the BL as well as various published sources from the 18th Century onwards) We have attempted to verify critical citations in EBT, although a few continue to elude us The descent shown in EBT from Roger Tempest to Isabel, the wife of Laurence Hamerton, is as follows: Roger Tempest living 1151 Richard Tempest living 1153 Roger Tempest m ca 1188 Alice daughter of Elias de Rilleston Richard Tempest living 1222 m Elena de Tong Sir Richard Tempest d ca 1268 Sir Roger Tempest d before June 1288 m Alice daughter of Walter de Waddington Richard Tempest d.1297 Sir John Tempest, b 1283, d shortly after 1356 m Margaret Holand Sir John Tempest b ca 1313 m Katherine Sherburne Sir Richard Tempest b ca 1334, d 1390 m Mary Talbot Sir Richard Tempest b 1356, d 1428 m (?) Margaret Stainforth Isabel Tempest m Laurence Hamerton We believe that the male line shown here is correct, the concern here is with the last five women WAS MARGARET HOLAND, DAUGHTER OF SIR ROBERT HOLAND AND MAUD LA ZOUCHE, THE WIFE OF SIR JOHN TEMPEST? Sir John Tempest of Bracewell, Broughton, etc was born 24 Aug 1283 (proof of age is found in the Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, hereafter CIPM, v 4, p 171, see also Yorkshire Inquisitions III, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series, hereafter YASRS, v 37, p 92-93) The last evidence of Sir John Tempest was 25 June 1356 when he witnessed a grant in Elslack (next to Broughton) EBT believes he died soon after EBT and a number of Burke’s publications show Sir John’s wife as Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Holand by his wife Maud, daughter of Alan lord Zouche As support for this attribution, EBT quotes a manuscript by Roger Dodsworth (Dodsw 6, fol 54, in the Bodleian Library, this should be f 53, f 54 is a continuation of the Tempest pedigree that is not relevant here) The Dodsworth MS is the source for a pedigree in Harleian 6136, p 18 in the British Library, also Harleian 4630, f 388 EBT also quotes the Visitation of Devon 1562 (Harleian 5185, and the printed version of this, the Visitation of the County of Devon 1564 with additions from the earlier Visitation of 1551, ed by Frederick Thomas Colby, 1881, Exeter, privately printed, online) However, EBT appears to have misread the Dodsworth MS, which shows Margaret Holand as the wife of Sir John Tempest’s son, John (see below) The Visitation of Devon has a pedigree of the Holand family which shows Margaret Holand as married to John Tempest, but does not specify father or son The above Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Holand, is shown in a number of sources to have been the wife of John la Warre, who died shortly before 24 June 1331, having married before 1326 (Complete Peerage, hereafter CP, v 4, p 144, quoting Fine Roll, Edw III, 1331-32, m 13, this is in Calendar of Fine Rolls, v 4, 1327-37, p 264, see also Ibid p 505) The widow of John la Warre died in 1349, according to her IPM (CIPM v 9, p 239-40) We believe that it is unlikely that Sir John Tempest’s wife was Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Holand According to CP (v 6, p 530) Sir Robert Holand did not marry Maud la Zouche until about 1311 and certainly no later than 1314 (citing CIPM, v 5, p 255) Hence, they could not be grandparents of the second John Tempest There is also the matter of a Papal Indult in June 1344 to John Tempest, Knight, and Isabel his wife to select their confessors at the hour of their deaths (Calendar of Papal Registers, Papal Letters, v 3, p 179, we have confirmed this entry in CPR through examination of an image of the original of this indult from the Vatican Secret Archives, Registri Vaticani 166, f 347v, number 165) EBT says "Either Sir John had a first wife 'Isabel' or the Holand wife was so called The son John Tempest was not a knight by 1344 [hence, the CPR reference could not have been to him]." The marriage of Sir Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche and Maud's birth in about 1290 are well established by the inquests at the death of her father, Alan la Zouche (CIPM, v 5, pp 255-259, the first dated 27 March Edw II [1314]) in which Maud is identified as wife of Sir Robert de Holand and as age 24 (she had an elder sister, Ellen, wife of Sir Nicholas de Sancto Mauro, age 26, and a younger sister Elizabeth, age 20, a nun; Ellen and Maud are identified as coheirs) It is not clear why CP says Robert and Maud were married “about 1311” (when she would have been 21) but it was certainly before March 1314 (when she was 24) Of course, they could have been married earlier, say as early as 1305 CP (v 6, p 528) says Sir Robert Holand was probably born about 1270, apparently basing that on the fact that his father settled upon him a tenement in 1292 (William Farrer, Lancashire Final Concords I, Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, v 39, p 173), that he was in the favor of the Earl of Lancaster in 1300 (Calendar of Close Rolls, 1296-1302, p 365), and that he was a commissioner in 1303 (Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1301-03, p 191, see also Calendar of Charter Rolls, vol 3, pp 43, 45, 79, 289) Douglas Richardson (Plantagenet Ancestry, 2004, p 398) says he was born about 1283, basing that on an article by J R Maddicott in The English Historical Review, v 86, p 452, note Maddicott bases this birthdate on the fact that Robert was not a knight in May 1302 (Coucher Book of Whalley Abbey, 4: 980-81) but was a knight in Sept 1305 (Hatton’s Book of Seals, no 223) So Maddicott imagines that he was knighted c 1304 “at the usual age of 21.” Furthermore Holand was a vallettus to Thomas of Lancaster in 1298 which suggests to Maddicott that he was underage at that time Obviously, knighthood could be conferred at a later age The birthdate of 1283 seems a little late to us but it is possible that the truth is somewhere between the estimates of CP and Maddicott If Robert was born in 1270, he would have been 20 years older than his wife, giving him time to have had a previous wife Sir Robert Holand was beheaded Oct 1328 (Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous, v 2, p 270 and other sources) by adherents of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, for his alleged betrayal of Thomas at the battle of Boroughbridge in 1322 Maud died 31 May 1349 (CIPM, v 9, p 178; Lancashire Inquests & Extents, III, Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, v 70, 1913-14, p 201) Richardson says they had sons and daughters, Isabel, Margaret, Maud, Elizabeth, and Eleanor Cal Pat Rolls 1321-24, p 75, records an order of 26 February 1322 to conduct a daughter (unnamed) of Robert Holand to the Tower of London along with Aline and John, the wife and son of John de Mowbray As noted above, CP says Margaret Holand's parents, Robert and Maud (la Zouche) were married about 1311, certainly before 1314, but as noted above, the date could have been (though unlikely) as early as 1305 Hence, Margaret could have been born as early as 1306 or as late as 1314, assuming she was a first child, a big assumption In any event, she would not have been married (to John Tempest or John la Warre) before 1321 and could not have given birth to John Tempest, born about 1312 For the record, we note that Sir Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche had a daughter, Isabel, the second wife of John de Warenne, eighth earl of Surrey (CPR, Edward III 1345-48, 12 December 1346, p 221) This Isabel could not have been John Tempest’s wife, since, as noted above, no daughter of Robert and Maud could have been his wife The above analysis depends considerably on the presumed date of birth of the second John Tempest EBT shows this in different places in her manuscript as 1308 or 1313 Could John have been born later, such that he could have been the grandson of Sir Robert Holand and Maud la Zouche? The only birthdates in this part of the Tempest line that we know with relative confidence are those of John's father (the senior John Tempest), 1283 by evidence of the proof of age, and this John's great-grandson, Richard (whom we discuss later), born 1356, according to his testimony in the Scrope vs Grosvenor proceeding Counting back from that date, it is hard to imagine that Richard's grandfather, the second John, could have been born after 1320, at the latest This is still too early for John to have been the grandson of Sir Robert Holand and Maud la Zouche, even if they were married in 1305, which is unlikely We believe the outside limits for the second John Tempest's birth are 1303 to 1313, most probably between 1305 and 1311 We believe that Sir John Tempest's wife was not Margaret, daughter of Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche, nor any other daughter of Robert and Maud (e.g., Katherine or Isabel) She may have been a Margaret (although the Papal Indult indicates that John's wife in 1344 was an Isabel) A daughter of Robert de Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury would fit better on chronological grounds If so, it was probably not Margaret, since Robert and Elizabeth's daughter Margaret is known to have been married to John Blackburn, Robert de Hephale, and Adam Banester And accounts of Robert and Elizabeth's family not include daughters named Isabel, Katherine, or Mary We conclude that we not know the identity of Sir John Tempest's wife We should note that if John Tempest married a daughter of Robert de Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury, his son John Tempest (see next) and his wife Katherine Sherburne would be related in the second and third degree, clearly prohibited We not find in the Calendar of Papal Registers permission for this marriage Other high officials of the church could issue dispensations and we have examined the published registers of William Melton, Archbishop of York during this period (Canterbury and York Society, vols 70, 71, 76, 85, 93) also without finding relevant records However, not all of Melton's registers have been published (they appear to be kept at the Borthwick Institute at the University of York) Some dispensations and licenses for marriage by the Archbishops of York, Bishops of Durham, and Archdeacons of Richmond from 1308-1531 are found in Testamenta Eboracensia volumes and (volumes 45 and 53 of the Surtees Society Publications) We not find a dispensation for John and Katherine in this source Of course, failure to find a dispensation is not definitive evidence that John did not marry a Holand A possible clue to the first John's wife may lie in transactions relating to rights to his marriage His father, Richard, died 29 Sept 1297, before John came of age (he was 14) and Richard's lands and the rights to his marriage were taken into the king' hands The king apparently granted John's marriage to Bolton priory which then sold it to William Mauleverer in 1299-1300 (Bolton Priory Compotus 12871325, v 154 of Yorks Arch Soc., 2000, pp 101, 115) The Tempests were associated both before and after John with Mauleverers, that is, their names appear as witnesses together to various transactions On the possibility that Mauleverer had in mind marrying John to his daughter, we have attempted to find a William Mauleverer of the right age with a daughter, perhaps even a daughter named Isabel So far, we have been unsuccessful in this search WHO WAS THE WIFE OF SIR JOHN TEMPEST (b ca 1313)? As noted above, the Dodsworth MS that EBT used as evidence for the marriage of the first John Tempest to Margaret Holand actually said she was married to the second John This formulation is followed by a number of authorities As noted above, it is well established that Margaret Holand, the daughter of Robert Holand and Maud la Zouche, was married to John la Warre who died in 1331 Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, 2004, pp 400-01 suggests the possibility that she was also married to the second John Tempest, after the death of John la Warre For this possibility, Richardson cites Surtees, History and Antiquitites of Durham, v 2, p 329 which shows a Tempest pedigree that is a transcript, at least down to the second John, of Dodsworth 6, fol 53, with a few additions not relevant here Richardson also cites Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421, v 4, p 573-575 (a biography of Richard, the second John Tempest’s grandson; note that Roskell suggests two possibilities for Richard's father, both of which are incorrect) and Clay, Dugdale’s Visitation of Yorkshire, v 1, pp, 120-28 Roskell apparently based his statements about the parentage of Richard on Harley 6136, which was copied from Dodsw 6, f 53 (Harley 4630, Pedigrees of Yorkshire Families, West Riding, f 388 shows the second John married to Margaret Holand, d of Sir Robert Holand This appears to have also been copied from Harl 6136 or Dodsworth.) The Tempest pedigree in Clay's version of Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire does not appear relevant to the question of John Tempest's wife, since it begins with John's grandson, Richard Tempest There is also the Visitation of Devon cited above that shows Margaret Holand married to a John Tempest, without specifying which one A printed version of this, the Visitation of the County of Devon 1564 with additions from the earlier Visitation of 1551, was edited by Frederick Thomas Colby (1881, Exeter, privately printed, online:http://www.ukgenealogyarchives.org.uk/cgibin/imageserve.cgi?actiontotake=View&ID=5&Book_Title=The %20Visitation%20of%20Devon%201564) Colby's edition is based on Harley 5158, but there are other versions of the visitation in Harley 1080, 3288, and 5840 This is apparently an addition to the manuscript Chris Phillips has examined these manuscripts for us at the British Library With regard to Margaret, daughter of Robert Holand and Matilda la Zouch, Harley 5158 reads: “Margaret uxor Joh’es Tempest, rel’ta” (Margaret [Holland] wife of John Tempest, widow) Chris tells us that this is an unusual construction, such that it is unclear whether Margaret was a widow of John Tempest or somebody else Since she died in Aug 1349, she predeceased both John Tempests, and could not have been the widow of either Furthermore, the other MS versions of the visitation not include the marriage of Margaret with John Tempest and thus this addition to Harley 5158 appears to be later than the visitation It does not seem to us that this source should be relied upon for identification of John Tempest's wife EBT marshals considerable evidence that Katherine Sherburne, born about 1320, was the wife of Sir John Tempest Katherine was the daughter of Sir Robert Sherburne of Mitton by his wife Alice, daughter of Sir John de Blackburne of Wiswell by Margaret daughter of Robert de Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury EBT cites a Sherburne Pedigree (1691) in Stowe MSS No 711 folio in the British Library (we have examined this pedigree, the folio numbers are actually 5963) and the Victoria County History of Lancashire, v 7, p EBT and VCHL quote a grant recorded in a manuscript by Richard Kuerden, now in the College of Arms The College has provided Chris Phillips a transcript of the grant on our behalf This is the transcript: Ceux sont le covenantz p'lez ent' ma dame Alice q' fust la feme Robt de Shirburn chevlr et Mons' John Tempest chevlr et Kat'ine sa feme q' le dit mons' John avera toux les bles semes sur les t'res queux le dit mons' John et Kat'ine onnt de donne la dite Alice iour de ces covenans p'lez &c done a Carlo [end of line] lundy en la fest Tiffayn nr seignr lan du regn' le Roi Edward tiers puis le conquest xxvii To this deed is a seale of Armes wth a chev(e)ron bet' [sic] wch cannot well be p'ceived, I suppose them martlets (College of Arms MS Kuerden 3, f A3, no 69) (These are the agreements made between Lady Alice, who was the wife of Robert de Shirburn, knight, and Sir John Tempest, knight, and Katherine his wife, that the said Sir John shall have all the corn sown on the lands that the said Sir John and Katherine have of the gift of the said Alice on the day these agreements were made Given at Carlisle, Monday in the feast of the Epiphany of our lord, of the 27th year of the reign of King Edward the third since the conquest [6 January 1353/4].) The fact that Alice had given land to Sir John Tempest and his wife Katherine suggests a parental relationship between Alice and Katherine EBT questions whether the seal of a chevron between three martlets was the Tempest shield This shield was used by other Tempests but another common version was a bend between six martlets EBT notes that in 1353 Katherine and Sir John Tempest her husband brought a writ of novel disseisin of land in Wode Plumpton, by her attorney Adam Fox against John & Isabel de Stafford & others EBT's citation is Lancashire Assize Roll, No 1, mm & 27; at another point, she cites Lancashire Assize Roll, No 2, mm & 27 Chris Phillips has examined this record for us at the National Archives (DL 35/2, mm & 27) and has verified EBT's account of the document The Sherburnes held land in Wood Plumpton, which may be the source of Katherine and John’s belief that they had an interest there The online History of Wood Plumpton says: “During the 14th and 15th centuries local gentry acquired freehold land among whom were the Shirebuerns of Stoneyhurst, who held Catforth, ” Robert Sherburne, Katherine’s father, was a descendant of Matilda de Catford (Coucher Book of Whalley, v 3, v 16 of the Chetham Society's Remains, p 681: “Robert de Schireburn, who was the grandfather of the Sir Robert de Shireburn who married Alice Blackburn, married Maude, sister of Adam de Catforth”) In August 1354 Sir John Tempest and Katherine his wife, of the diocese of York, obtained a Papal Indult to choose their confessors (Calendar of Papal Registers, Papal Letters, Vol 3, p 527) The online catalogue Access to Archives (A2A) has an entry pointing to a document at the Lancashire Record Office We have obtained a copy of that record, reference DDCL 1049, and Chris Phillips has transcribed and translated it from the French for us It is an indenture in March 1350/51 acknowledging a debt and arranging payment to Sir William de Clifton from Lady Alice who was the wife of Sir Robert de Shirburne, Sir John Tempest the younger [puisne], Robert de Shirburne, clerk, William Shirburne, Robert d[e H eighs?] and William de Clayton, vicar of Pulton This suggests a close relationship between Alice and the second John Tempest The first John Tempest was still alive at the date of this record, so if he were Alice's son-inlaw it is unclear why he was not the party to the indenture, rather than his son So we have good evidence of a marriage between a John Tempest and a Katherine, and it is highly likely that that Katherine was Katherine Sherburne There are several possibilities: Katherine Sherburne was married to the first John Tempest She would have had to have married him after Isabel, that is, after 1344 (when he was 61), the date of the Papal Indult to John and Isabel We estimate that Katherine was born between 1308 and 1320, based on an estimate of the birth date of her mother, Alice, of between 1290 and 1295, and an estimate of the birth date of her eldest brother, Robert, of no later than 1310 (we not know whether Katherine was younger or older than Robert) If she was born in 1308, she would have been 25 years younger than the first John and would have been more than 36 when they were married If she was born later she would have been younger at marriage but the difference in their ages would have been greater Even if she were born as early as 1300, she could not have given birth to the second John Tempest, born no later than 1313 Finally, there is the record cited above in the Lancashire Record Office of an association between Alice Sherburne, Katherine's mother, and the younger John Tempest The second John was married first to Margaret Holand and then to Katherine Sherburne This seems unlikely It is well established that Margaret Holand was married to John la Warre who died in 1331 So she could have subsequently married John Tempest However, her inquisitions post mortem (CIPM, v, 9, pp 239-240) refer to her as the widow of John la Warre with no reference to John Tempest As to the Hopkinson in a collection of pedigrees and descents of gentry of the West Riding of Yorkshire (Family History Library film 207955, p 422), and Harleian MS 4630, f 316 This is clearly incorrect Elizabeth Bellair was the wife of Thomas Talbot's grandson, Thomas, son of Edmund The Calendar of Fine Rolls, v (1369-77), p 380 contains a commitment February 1377 to Thomas Talbot and Elizabeth his wife, daughter of James de Bellars and Lettice late his wife, deceased, daughter and heir of Walter Prest The elder Thomas Talbot died before 1366 so he could not have received a commitment in 1377 The correct attribution of Elizabeth Bellair's husband is shown in Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire 1665-66 (Surtees Society v 36, p 239, online in Making of America Books, and Foster's Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire (London, 1874) According to Foster's pedigree, the Sir Thomas Talbot who was Elizabeth Bellair's husband was under age and in the wardship of Thomas Banister at the time of the death of his father Edmund in 1372, but had attained full age and a knighthood by 1380 Hence, he is likely to have been born between 1351 and 1359 Mary (Talbot) Tempest's son, Richard, was born in 1356 (see below), so he cannot have been the grandson (or nephew) of the Thomas who married Elizabeth Bellair They had to have been cousins Thus, Mary (Talbot) Tempest was probably the aunt of this Sir Thomas Talbot We not know the identity of her mother WHO WAS THE WIFE OF SIR RICHARD TEMPEST (1356-1428)? Richard and Mary's son, Sir Richard Tempest, had an illustrious career involving battles with the Scots and French and extensive administrative responsibilities in the north of England under five kings of England, from Edward III to Henry VI As noted above, he was cowarden of Berwick Castle with Sir Thomas Talbot, presumably his mother's brother, in 1385-86 (This could not have been her father, since he was dead by 1366, History of Whalley, v 1, p 500.) Richard's birth year is well established through his testimony in the Scrope and Grosvenor trial, when he said in October 1386 that he was 30 years old (N Harris Nicholas,Scrope and Grosvenor Controversy, 1832, v 1, pp 198-99, v 2, pp 473-74; Nicholas suggests two possibilities for Richard's father, both of which are clearly wrong) He made his will 26 August 1427 and it was proved by his son Roger 30 September 1430 (Testamenta Eboracensia I, hereafter Test Ebor., Surtees Society Publications v 4, p 412-13) As evidence for his death in 1428, EBT cites non-payment of an annuity due to him "because he is dead" (quoting Duchy of Lancaster Minister's Accounts No 8352, Bdle 524) and accounts of the Priory of Finchale for May 1429 to May 1430 (Surtees Society Publications vol 6, p cciii) (J S Roskell, The House of Commons 1386-1421, 1992, pp 573-575, has a biography which incorrectly identifies Richard's father as his grandfather, John, and does not identify his wife.) As to who Richard's wife was, there is great confusion in the literature She is identified as Margaret in his will and in an inscription in a window in Bracewell church viewed by Dodsworth in 1645 (Dodsw 88, f 31, printed in the appendix to Dodsworth's Yorkshire Church Notes, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series, v 34, p 242: "Orate pro Domino Ricardo Tempest et Domina Margareta consorte sua") Several Burke's publications have almost identical formulations: "said to have married Isabel, widow of John Grassus, of Gemelyn, and also Margaret, daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Stainforth" (Landed Gentry, 1925, p 1724, 1937, p 2214, 1972, p 886; Family Records, 1897, p 584; Peerage & Baronetage, 107th ed., 2003, v 2, p 2384, sub Londonderry) Joseph Foster's 1875 edition of Glover's Yorkshire visitation of 1584-85 and St George's visitation of 1612 shows Richard's wife as Isabella, sister and heir of John Gras of Studley, while who Richard's wife was, there is great confusion in the literature She is identified as Margaret in his will and in an inscription in a window in Bracewell church viewed by Dodsworth in 1645 (said to have married Isabel, widow of John Grassus, of Gemelyn, and also Margaret, daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Stainforth" Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire 1665-66 (1899, J W Clay, ed., pp 120-21) says "believed to have married Margaret, dau and ch of Robt de Staynford, of Gyggleswick (some say Isabel, wid of John le Gras)." R Surtees, History and Antiquities of Durham (1820, p 327) says she was "Isabel, daughter and heir of John le Gras, of Studley, co York, (otherwise stated to be Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir Hugh Clitherow, Knt by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of John le Gras)." Whitaker's History and Antiquities of the Deanery of Craven (3rd ed 1878, opposite p 96) confuses things further, showing Richard's wife as Isabel de Clitheroe, daughter of his step-mother Isabel de Gras by her second husband Sir Hugh de Clitheroe Similar confusions exist in the Tempest chart in Foster's Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire In a note to Richard's will in Test Ebor I, the editor says his wife was Isabel, widow of John le Gras, without documentation (p 413) An Appendix to the Memorials of Fountains Abbey (Surtees Society, v 67, 1876, p 312), "A Genealogical and Biographical Memoir of the Lords of Studley, in Yorkshire," by John Richard Walbran, discussing Sir John le Gras says "his only daughter and heiress, Isabel le Gras, married, according to the usually received account, Sir Richard Tempest who thus became lord of Studley and other possessions, jure uxoris; but there appears to be some confusion, or perhaps deficiency in this statement It has been said, though we have seen no proofs of the assertion, that this Isabel was the daughter and heiress of Sir Hugh Clitheroe, by Elizabeth his wife, daughter and heiress of Sir John le Gras." Apparently, Walbran has confused Sir Richard Tempest with his uncle Richard (see below) In recent postings on the Internet, Richard's wife is often identified as Isabel Leygard, perhaps a corruption of le Gras EBT notes that Richard's wife has been identified as Isabel, widow of John Grassus, citing a pedigree by G C Brooke, Somerset Herald at the College of Arms C.R 92, also taking note of the footnote in Test Ebor., and citing British Library Add MS 18011, f 188 (also see Harleian 4630, f 388) She goes on to say, "No evidence has yet been found to prove this marriage & no John Grassus or Graas appears forthcoming to suit the dates." We agree, we have not found substantial evidence for this marriage either, other than the many secondary sources cited above, all of which may have been copying from each other (they may have gotten this idea from EBT, who cited the College of Arms pedigree in an earlier work, Pedigree of Tempest, of Bracewell, Broughton-in-Craven, Bowling, Tong, etc., 1890, Family History Library film 702215) who Richard's wife was, there is great confusion in the literature She is identified as Margaret in his will and in an inscription in a window in Bracewell church viewed by Dodsworth in 1645 (said to have married Isabel, widow of John Grassus, of Gemelyn, and also Margaret, daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Stainforth" Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire 1665-66 (1899, J W Clay, ed., pp 120-21) says "believed to have married Margaret, dau and ch of Robt de Staynford, of Gyggleswick In Tempest Pedigrees EBT prefers Margaret Stainforth (or Staynforth), sister or daughter of Robert de Stainforth, as the likely wife As principal evidence for this relationship, she cites Robert Stainforth's will This will is in the York Registry of Wills at the Borthwick Institute of the University of York (volume 1, ff 56 and 25, the sheets of this volume were disarranged prior to binding, so that the will begins on f 56 and is completed on f 25) Reference to it may be found in the Index of Wills in the York Registry, YASRS v 6, p 158 (it is not in Testamenta Eboracensia) We have obtained a copy of the will from the Borthwick Institute and are grateful to the staff there for providing us a translation The will was made 16 March 1390-91 and was apparently probated on the last day of that month Robert Stainforth’s will: bequeaths animals and household utensils to his daughters Margaret and Agnes, but as EBT observes, fails to indicate whether they were married He goes on: "Also I bequeath to the daughter of Richard Tempest 100 marks at her marriage if she should be married, or to the daughters of the said Richard Tempest or to the sons of the same." Then: "Also I bequeath the residue of all my goods not bequeathed to Richard Tempest knight and to the abbot of Sallay so that they shall ordain and dispose for my soul as is best." He names Richard Tempest, knight, and John de Standon (Stainton) executors While not absolutely dispositive, we agree with EBT that this is substantial evidence for the marriage of Richard Tempest and Margaret Stainforth EBT goes on to present other evidence for this marriage Richard's son Roger named a daughter Margaret More importantly, property at Staynforth and Gigglesworth, formerly in the possession of the Stainforths, was owned by Richard's son Robert (EBT cites Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, v 12, p 114, which is a demise 12 September 1419 by Robert Tempest of Stayneforth to William Finch and others of various manors and lands, "late held by Thos de Scheffeld of Braythwell, " there is no mention of these properties having been owned by the Stainforths, although EBT shows this from other sources) Furthermore, Robert's son Richard was "of Staynforth" in September 1437 (EBT cites Lanc Plea Roll 33 Lent Ed 4, m 33, which we have not found but note that Edward IV was 1463-4, so if this reference is correct, it must be retrospective) There are also other documented associations of Richard Tempest with Robert de Stainforth, as noted by EBT: "In Aug 1382, Robt de Staynforth was witness to a grant from John son of Sir Richard Tempest of Studley to Sir Ric Tempest of Bracewell, of land in Pathorne (Ric: Gascoignes MSS) & was associated with Sir Ric Tempest in a suit over land there & in Settle (Assize Ro 1500 m 10) In 1389, Robt Staynforth was to have gone with Sir Richard to Berwick, but was too infirm & aged to go (Pat Ro Cal 1385-89, p 267)." We have verified only the last of these references A recent book on the Stainforths by Peter Stainforth, Not Found Wanting (Knebworth, Hertfordshire, Able Publishing, 2003) references this will (p 21, online at http://www.stainforthhistory.co.uk/excerpts/yorksavon.html) The book definitively identifies Robert Stainforth's daughter as the wife of Richard Tempest, and says Margaret's daughter, Margaret, was the daughter of Richard Tempest who was to have received 100 marks as a marriage portion We not know the source of this identification and believe that the author may have inferred too much EBT notes that a source for the belief that Richard's wife was somehow related to the le Gras family may be the fact that Richard's great uncle, Sir Richard Tempest was married to Isabel, daughter of Sir John le Gras of Studley One of the most fascinating tidbits about Richard's wife is the following notation by EBT: "During the time Sir Ric Tempest was the warden of Roxburgh Castle, between April 1385 & April 1386, the Scots carried off his papers & his wife." EBT's citation for this is "Exch: Q.R Memorand: Mich: Hen Writs to Barons m 9." We are grateful to Chris Phillips who has found this document for us in the National Archives at Kew The reference is E 159/176, King's Remembrancer: Memoranda Rolls and Enrolment Books Phillips's summary translation is as follows: Henry [IV] to the Treasurer and barons of the Exchequer Recites that on 28 February Richard II [1384/5] Thomas Swynburn and Richard Tempest knights bound themselves by indenture made between the king of the one part and them of the other to guard at their peril the Castle of Roxburgh for a whole year starting on the day of the feast of Easter in the said year [2 April 1385] and taking from him for the said guard 4300 marks to be paid at terms limited in the said indenture The part of [the indenture] which remained with the said Richard at the time that his wife was taken by our Scots enemies was accidentally lost as he says, so that it cannot be received to his account at our said Exchequeur unless he is helped by us Unfortunately, we have not located additional sources that would throw light on this alleged abduction or its outcome EBT shows five sons for Richard and Margaret: Sir Piers, Sir Robert, John, Richard, and Roger She gives varying dates for their births at different places in the manuscript, Piers: "circa 1378" and "born say 1382"; Robert: "born say 1385"; Roger: "circa 1390," "born say 1390," and "c 1398"; she does not suggest birthdates for John and Richard She also shows a single daughter, Isabel, also without birthdate (Roger married Catherine Gilliot, founded the Tempests of Broughton, and is the ancestor of EBT's husband, Arthur Cecil Tempest.) Since Robert de Stainforth's will was dated April 1390, if Margaret was in fact Richard Tempest's wife, either she had returned from her ordeal as a captive of the Scots in 1385 or 1386 or she was a successor wife to the one who was abducted So, while we believe that Margaret Stainforth was Richard's wife, we cannot be sure that he did not have a first wife The Yorkshire & Avon Stanfords in the 13th and 14th centuries "Within two hundred years of Hastings, people bearing the name of Stainford held land all over the North and West Ridings of Yorkshire Indeed, by the turn of the 13th century, the Stainfords had spread as far east as York itself, where William de Stainford in 1270 is appointed Sheriff of York." UPRIVER FROM GIGGLESWICK lies the modern village of Stainforth, but [in the th 11 century] it was a Saxon hamlet going by the name of Stainfordenburgg, which the Norman scribes, writing in Latin, shortened to Stainford It was a place of no great importance, except that the stone-built hall commanded the ford over the river carrying the York to Lancaster road, and when the bridge was built later, the tenant knight may have extracted a toll Today, a seventeenth century farmhouse, built like a keep, occupies the site and retains the name of Knight Stainforth Hall, probably so called after the long succession of knights bearing the name 'de Stainford' who lived there From the way the Stainfords spread out over the next four generations into the surrounding area suggests that these knights were landowners of some importance Arriving with the Conqueror as a soldier of fortune with no family connections, the first knight almost certainly married a Saxon girl of good birth, the eldest son carrying on the title, the younger sons acquiring land through marriage or purchase, probably marrying a second generation Anglo-Norman girl, gradually becoming wealthier, and moving up the social ladder as gentry of some standing At the beginning of the thirteenth century the principal landowner in the district was Hugh, son of Adam de Stainford, a tenant of Elias de Giggleswick, Lord of the Manor of Giggleswick and Langcliffe, who owned the high ground in Stainforth from the Langcliffe boundary to Fornagill Hugh owned the remaining part, known as Stainforthunder-Bargh, and this is borne out by the fifteen charters which transferred his property to Sawley Abbey, which was founded by William, Lord Percy, in the reign of Henry I The name of Nigel de Stainford occurs as a witness, and one Nigel follows another as landowners in Stainforth-under-Bargh until the last Nigel de Stainford died in 1303 and willed his estate at Nields Ing to the Abbey Indeed, within two hundred years of Hastings people bearing the name of Stainford held land all over the North and West Ridings of Yorkshire, as their signatures on several charters and tax records attest A Henry de Stainford witnessed a document dated 1270 concerning the Manor of Elslack, near Skipton, and a little later, Robert, son of Gamel de Stainford covenants to make an annual payment to Sawley Abbey for the rest of his life Indeed, by the turn of the century, the Stainfords had spread as far east as York itself, where William de Stainford, a kinsman of Henry de Stainford, in 1270 is appointed Sheriff of York, the King's representative in the city, holding judiciary and executive powers From then onwards they continue to move outwards from their cradle at Stainforth In the year 1302 Knights' fees due for the parish of Kirkby, near Ripon, record that another Robert de Stainford held one hide of the three caracates of parish ploughland, and a few years later at the beginning of the reign of Edward II in 1307 the Nomina Villarum records that Nigel de Stainford, Nicholas de Bolinbroke and Lady Margaret de Neville are Lords of the Manor of Gargrave, four miles northwest of Skipton But as their dispersal continued the old ancestral home at Stainforth and Giggleswick, the birthplace of the northern family, passed into other hands following the death of the last Lord of the Manor of Stainforth Scotan, Robert de Stainford, in May 1390 This Robert de Stainford, who in 1379 paid a Poll Tax of twenty Marks, a large sum reflecting his high social standing, was the founder of the Stainford Chantry in Giggleswick Chapel, but did not live to see the completion of his endowment His Will, dated 16 May 1390, gave instructions for his burial in the precincts of Giggleswick Church, and left the bulk of his estate to his surviving daughters, Margaret and Agnes, of whom the eldest, Margaret, was married to Sir Richard Tempest, Knight, who thereby inherited the manor and lands In addition, he bequeathed Margaret's daughter, Margaret Tempest, one hundred Marks as marriage portion; twenty Marks to the daughter of his nephew Robert de Stainford, Junior, who appears to have predeceased him; and to Giggleswick Church such a sum in silver to finish the building that he had begun It is interesting to note that the old Saxon coinage, the Mark (equivalent to ounces of silver, subdivided into twenty pennies to the ounce) was still the currency of the North, three hundred years after the Conquest Sir Richard Tempest and the Abbot of Sawley Abbey are residuary legatees, Sir Richard and John de Standen are the executors of the Will that was proved on the 31st March 1393 The bequest to the Abbot of Sawley was charged with the annual payment of the endowment of the Stainford Chantry, and indeed the Abbey Accounts show a yearly payment 'to the Chaplain of Gygylswek £4 with wine and wax' The bequest to Sawley Abbey is significant because a William de Stainford was Abbot there during the reign of Henry IV, as a fine oak altar screen in the Sherburn Chapel verifies The Latin inscription forming part of the carved decoration reads, 'Dedicated and Communal Effort made this work in the time of our Lord Abbot, William Stainford Anno Domini 1393.' ***** THE PROSPEROUS NORTHERN FAMILY of Stainford are now joined by John, the illegitimate son of Peter de Stanford, a scion of the Stanford family that held the estate on the River Avon in Leicestershire prior to 1066 As a result of outstanding bravery on the field of battle in 1346, John fitzPeter, a descendant of Leuric of Stanford, was granted a substantial acreage of land in Hatfield Chase on the River Don, and a crest to wear on his helmet when he took part in tournaments The crest of a broken sword held in a gauntlet, awarded personally by Edward III, together with the motto, 'Non Deficit Alter' ('Not Found Wanting Another Time'), links him directly with Leuric and the aftermath of the Battle of Hastings, proclaims that Leuric's disgrace had been expunged, and that the Stanford family honour had been fully restored The northern Stainfords did not fight at Hastings, only Leuric's clan did; and while two hundred and eighty years after that awful defeat seems a long time to be haunted by the shame of Leuric's disgrace, the stigma burnt so deeply into the soul of his descendants that its removal was like the lifting of a curse This first contact between the two wings of the family, the Stanfords and the Stainfords, would develop over the next two hundred years and eventually blend into one, with variations of spelling of their name on the way John fitzPeter adopts the name 'Staynford' on the charter granting him his new lands, but was fully aware of his origins, and how this remarkable transformation of Stanford family fortunes came about Not Found Wanting, pp.20-22 WHO WERE THE PARENTS OF ISABEL TEMPEST, WIFE OF LAURENCE HAMERTON? First, some background, beginning with evidence for this marriage Perhaps the most decisive is the inscription on Laurence's tomb in the church at Long Preston, dated 1445, identifying his wife as Isabel Also on the tomb are five shields, one of them Hamerton impaling Tempest (the tomb is pictured in Whitaker’s History and Antiquities of the Deanery of Craven in the County of York, 3rd ed., 1878, p 146; see also Harleian 4630, f 142) Laurence and Isabel were the parents of a number of children, including Alice (shown as Matilda in some sources, including Baines, History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster, 1836, Family History Library film 994035, item 3, v 3, chart after p 572 and Whitaker's Whalley 4th ed., v 2, p 476), wife of Richard Sherburne The home church of the Sherburnes in Mitton at one time had an inscription on a wood screen to Richard Sherburne and Alice Hamerton The inscription is quoted in a Harleian manuscript at the British Library and in Dodsworth's Church Notes (op cit.) On our behalf, Chris Phillips has examined the Harleian manuscript (Harl M.S 804, fol 99b) and reports that it reads: "Orate pro Anima Richardi de Sherburne et p[ro] anima _ _ _ [ ] Hamerton uxoris suae Anno Mo cccc xti obijt prfatus Rich[ ] et erat hic tumulatus in diem Ascensions [sic] domini nostri Jesu Christi cuius anima propitietur deus Requiem aeterna[ ] dona eis Domine 19.H.6." The volume is tightly bound and the ends of the lines cannot be read, as indicated by the bracketed ellipses However, it is likely this is only one or two letters Phillips believes that the superscript "ti" was intended to be "li" making the date MCCCCXLI (1441) The transcription in Dodsworth's Church Notes follows closely the Harleian version but provides Alice's first name in brackets, indicating that it was not present in the original inscription It does not provide the date at the end Both Whitaker's Whalley (4th ed v 2, p 493) and his History of Craven (3rd ed., p 151) quote the inscription, citing the Harleian MS, but the quotation differs somewhat from the transcript shown above and Whitaker inserts Alice's name in place of the dashes This Richard Sherburne's parents were Richard Sherburne (d 1441, will in Test Ebor II, Surtees Society Publications v 30, p 75-76, dated January 1436 and probated June 1441, Test Ebor shows the date of probate as 1440, but Wills in the York Registry, YASRS v shows it as 1441; IPM in Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, appendix to v 39, p 541 says died on Monday before Pentecost 19 Henry [29 May 1441]) and Agnes Harrington (d 1444, her will is also in Test Ebor II, p 105-06, dated November 1444, IPM in Towneley's Abstracts of IPMs, Chetham Society Remains, v 99, pp 52-53, where it says she died in 1445 or 1446; Wills in York Registrygives the date of the will as above, date of probate 30 November 1444) Richard Sherburne the son evidently predeceased his father by a few days The will of Richard senior identifies his wife as Agnes and makes his son James and Robert and Thomas Harrington (brothers) his executors "at the sight of John Tempest." No other children are mentioned Agnes's will identifies, among other children, “my daughter, Alice Tempest.” Later in the will she leaves a gold broach “to my son Sir John Tempest” and appoints “John Tempest, knight” as one of her executors This John Tempest was the son of Piers Tempest who was the son of Richard above and perhaps Margaret Stainforth Agnes's IPM references her deceased son Richard and his son Robert The identity of Agnes (Harrington) Sherburne was the topic of an article on the Soc Gen Med newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval) on 24 May 2004 by Douglas Hickling, building on work reported by Douglas Richardson in the recent Plantagenet Ancestry (2004, p 678) Many sources show Agnes as a Stanley, but Hickling has shown that she was the daughter of Sir Nicholas Harrington A chart is in order: Richard = Agnes Harrington Laurence = Isabel | | Sherburne | d 1444 Hamerton | Tempest | | d 1441 | d bef 1445 | | | _| _ _| _ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Others Alice d 1507 = Richard = Alice John Tempest Richard others d 1441 d 1464 Returning now to the question of the parentage of Isabel, wife of Laurence Hamerton She was clearly a Tempest She is shown in a number of sources (see below) as the daughter of Sir John Tempest and Alice Sherburne This is clearly impossible, since it would mean that Richard Sherburne the second married the granddaughter of his sister Furthermore, the dates are problematic, since Isabel would have to be the daughter of a man who died in 1464 and the husband of a man who died in about 1445 This chronological and relationship difficulty was suggested in an exchange on this subject on the Soc Gen Med newsgroup 27 May-1 June 2004 This error may be found in a number of places, in the Tempest pedigrees in Whitaker’s History of Craven (3rd ed., 1878, chart opposite p 96), Foster’s Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire (1874), and Thoresby’s Ducatus Leodiensis (History of Leeds, 1715, p 205) It is also shown in the History of Craven (opposite p 96) andPedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire Hamerton charts and in the Sherburne chart in the History of Craven (3rd ed., 1878, opposite p 24) Burke's Landed Gentry(18th ed., 1972, p 886) tries to cover all bases, showing Isabel both as daughter of Sir Richard and of Sir John and Alice Sherburne, both on the same page The error is also perpetrated in numerous Internet files EBT shows Isabel as the daughter of Sir Richard Tempest and we believe that to be correct As noted above, she was clearly a Tempest EBT does not guess at Isabel's birth date We have her husband's death date (about 1445) and her son-in-law's death date (1441) Considering these in conjunction with the likely dates of birth of Richard's sons (see above), Isabel would be in the right generation to be Richard's daughter, although it is not clear where in the sibship Isabel might be placed EBT presents two pieces of evidence regarding the Hamertons, both confirming a close relationship between them and the Tempests The first is Assize Roll 1542, mm and 9d (EBT also references m 3d of this roll, the roll is National Archives, JUST 1/1542) Chris Phillips has located and translated this manuscript for us and the following is an edited version of his report Membrane and its reverse, 9d, includes a copy of the text on m 3d, relating to the same plea It concerns a claim of novel disseisin brought by William Richardson against Roger Tempest and Thomas Proctour, 15 April Henry [VI] [1429] and references a previous plea at Westminster in Michaelmas Term in Henry VI [1428] Roger Tempest, presumably Isabel's brother, answered "that he holds, and held at the date of the writ, jointly with Richard Ham'ton son of Laurence de Ham'ton and Robert Proctour of Austwyke, by a certain charter of feoffment of Richard Tempest knight to the same Roger, Richard Ham'ton and Robert by names, viz Roger Tempest son of Richard Tempest knight, Richard Ham'ton son of Laurence [insertion: de] Ham'ton and Robert Proctour of Austwyke, by the name of all the lands and tenements which Richard Tempest knight had of the gift and feoffment of John Dowebyggyng son of Robert Dowebyggyng of Wakefeld lying in the vills and fields of [named areas] He produces the charter of feoffment [i.e., Richard Tempest's charter], dated at Clapeham Monday next after the feast of Pentecost Henry VI [28 May 1425]." The entry goes on with other details of the suit that are not relevant here The manuscript shows that Isabel's son, Richard Hamerton, identified as the son of Laurence Hamerton, and Roger Tempest, Sir Richard's son and presumably Isabel's brother, were enfeoffed of property by Sir Richard in 1425 The second piece of evidence EBT cites is the founding of a chantry in Long Preston church in 1468 by Sir Richard Hamerton (the chantry contains the tomb mentioned above) for the souls of his father Laurence and others, witnesses being Sir Richard Tempest of Bracewell (perhaps the son of Sir Richard, son of Sir John and Alice Sherburne, John was the son of Sir Piers and Grace Hebden, and Piers was son of Sir Richard) and Sir Richard Tempest of Staynforth (son of Sir Roger who was son of Sir Richard) Her citation for this is "Dodsw MSS." Unfortunately, EBT does not provide the volume number of the Dodsworth manuscript, we believe it to be Dodsw 155, but have not examined that work There are a number of other evidences for the connection between the Tempests and Hamertons, many not cited by EBT: Sept 1410, Yorkshire Deeds I, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series, v 39, p 44, no 120: Release from Cecily, widow of Thomas Cokeson of Crakhow, to Sir Richard Tempest, knt of [described lands] Witnesses: Sir Thomas Talbot, knt., Laurence de Hamerton, and others May 1421, Ibid p 41, no 106: Release from Henry de Marsden to Sir Richard Tempest, knt., of lands in Broughton, witnesses included Laurence de Hamerton July 1437, Ibid p 41, no 107: Grant in special tail male by Roger Tempest, esq., and Katherine his wife, to William, their son, and Joan, daughter of James Metcalf, of their manor in Broughton with other lands Witnesses: Sir John Tempest, knt., Laurence de Hamerton, and others 13 June 1410, Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1408-1413, p 225: Commission to William de Haryngton, "chivaler," Richard Tempest, "chivaler," Laurence de Hamerton, and others to arrest various people June 1412, EBT quoting Dodsw 83, f 57 [or 51]: Sir Richard Tempest, with his sons Peter and John and Laurence Hamerton, witnesses April 1418, Calendar of Patent Rolls, Henry V, 1416-1422, p 196: Commission of array to Richard Tempest, "chivaler," Laurence Hamerton, and others for the defense of the realm while the king is in foreign parts for the recovery of the inheritance and rights of the crown Sept 1426, Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Madden, 183443, v 6, Charters Relating to Elslack, &c, pp 316-17, T 130: Richard Tempest, militis, Laurence de Hamerton, and others, witnesses 20 Sept 1426, Ibid p 316, T 134: Laurence de Hamerton, Roger Tempest, and others, witnesses 28 Sept 1426, Ibid p 316, T 135: Richard Tempest, militis, Laurence de Hamerton, armig', and others, witnesses January 1427-8, EBT quoting Hoghton Tower Deeds, no 272: Sir Richard Tempest, Knt., with Laurence Hamerton and John Tempest (his son) with others witnesses at Gisburne Oct 1434, Pudsay Deeds, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series, v 56, p 255 No 267: John Tempest, knight, Laurence de Hamerton, and others, witnesses 20 July 1439 A2A: Lancashire Record Office Tatton of Cuerdan ref DDTA 146: John Tempest, knt., Laurence Hamerton, Richard Hamerton, Roger Tempest, and others, witnesses (Online at the Access to Archives website.) We believe that there is good evidence that Isabel was Sir Richard's daughter We cannot, however, be sure that she was a daughter of Margaret Stainforth, since we not know whether Richard had a previous wife (carried off by the Scots) and we not know where in her sibship Isabel came